w4hammer 1:48 Mon May 20
New Rules for Football next season...
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https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1129452/Premier-League-rules-changing-changes-full-list-VAR-video-assistant-referee-handball
not sure i under stand the subletly of the handball point.
the rule on the attackers disrupting the defensive wall is a wierd one- why should the defensive ( fouling) side have an advantage -- dont understand why they have skewed the advantage...
the GK penalty rules are long overdue- lets see how closely they are adhered to?
I also heard they had tightened up the offside i.e there has to be an " air gap" before offside is given as opposed to the part of the body rule ( sometimes) used up until now however I dont see any reference to it here?
going to be fun..!
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Vexed
9:00 Tue May 21
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Next season is going to be the season of cunts making TV gestures every time some cunt falls over. It's going to be tedious. The upside is that due to the negative balance in luck we've had over the last few years and the daylight robbery of some of the decisions by the bent officials this season we will inevitably win the league. Yet somehow it will be tainted by the stench of VAR.
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chink
8:15 Tue May 21
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Razzle 2:51 Mon May 20
My point was that the EPL version of VAR is not in accordance with the IFAB Protocol Principles "all of which must apply in every match using VARs" e.g. under the IFAB version the final decision is with the ref. Under the EPL version it's with the VAR official which breaks a Law of the game (the ref is always in charge). See https://uniteforvar.com/?p=1863
This will mean no EPL refs being in charge of e.g. Champions League games as the CL uses the IFAB VAR model.
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easthammer
1:57 Tue May 21
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These are not really new rules as much as interpretations of existing laws and instructions on how they should be enforced by the ref.
I think perhaps if the offside law was implemented to favour the forwards (clean air whatever ) it would benefit the game with more goals. A bit like one day cricket favourx has changed to favour the batsman. More runs and more goals keeps the fans happy. Well half of them anyway
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WHUDeano
1:07 Tue May 21
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Blimey, seems as if they are using VAR to roll out three big changes to the rules...anyone know if this is consistent across Europe?
Basically in a less wordy way:
1) No opposition players to stand in a defensive wall.
2) No more drop balls - just a return of possession.
3) In a penalty situation, the keeper must keep one foot on the ground until after the ball is in play (struck).
The other two are basically common sense to the general football fan:
4) ball to hand is accidental handball / hand to ball is handball and will be penalised.
5) players now need to leave the pitch at the nearest point to which they are standing.
6) the manager will be punished the same as the players for dissent to (4th) officials, and the manager will also be held accountable for staff behaviour.
It's going to be an interesting season with VAR, I was originally completely against it, but the reality is that it will benefit teams of our level when playing against the top 6.
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Ashy
12:32 Tue May 21
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*Penalty was against us... it wasn't him it hit... it was me.
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Ashy
12:31 Tue May 21
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Razzle, until we get the full info on it we don't know how it works yet. Seems like extra crap for the ref to deal with, but hopefully it will run well like your experience of it.
We had one red card last season, a player said "what a bell end" when the ref gave a handball penalty against him and got sent off for it. If that sort of dissent becomes a sin bin then all good.
Like N.Sold, i've got to attend a course on it on Wednesday night so we'll see exactly what the plan is.
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Stevethehammer
7:13 Mon May 20
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What the fuck are liverpool going to do now?
Salah going down easier than a 10 quid hooker, offside goals and 'fouls' leading to a goal... they will be lucky to stay in the league let alone win the thing.
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Billy Blagg
6:24 Mon May 20
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BRANDED 2:46 Mon May 20 :) Can you imagine? "The referee has checked the monitor and decided it's too Marxist Capitalist. That will be controversial"
Also in my day the ball had to hit the HAND not some upper part of the arm. Reintroduce that and it stops all this silly shouting. Also if you get the ball but remove the man's leg after then it's not a foul.
Nowadays John Chidozie would be dancing round Frank Lampard like he wasn't there!
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Far Cough
3:24 Mon May 20
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I like how the sin bin works in Rugby
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Northern Sold
2:59 Mon May 20
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On our Vets football team myself the manager and the captain have got to attend a FA affiliated course regarding Sin bins... bollocks to that...
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BRANDED
2:52 Mon May 20
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Sin bins are great. Stocks are even better.
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Razzle
2:51 Mon May 20
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chink 2:27 Mon May 20
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David Elleray (he is on the board of the IFAB) oversaw the implementation of VAR. There is no European or Premier league VAR - there are only laws of the game and competition rules.
VAR is a law that is consistent with the competition that has trialled it
for your reference:
http://www.theifab.com/laws/var-protocol/chapters/protocol-principles-practicalities-and-procedures
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Razzle
2:48 Mon May 20
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Ashy 2:25 Mon May 20
"Temporary dismissals "Sin bins" are easy to manage.
We had a trial in veterans football and it works very well.
The idea is to reduce the level of dissent. Also there is no fine for a first yellow card as it was deemed as being a money making activity. However if you receive a second you'll get a £25 fine and a one match ban.
You can effectively receive 3 yellows cards in a game which will confuse players as they tend to think they know but they dont .
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BRANDED
2:46 Mon May 20
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Air gap for me is a must. Preferably a rancid guffy air gap of post modern capitalist stench.
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Mike Oxsaw
2:33 Mon May 20
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Have they decided to formalise the Leicester caveat yet? You know:
"No side outside the current (2018/9) Top 6 shall ever be allowed to achieve a position in the future whereby it can possibly win the Premier League Title."?
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chink
2:27 Mon May 20
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Lee Trundle 2:13
Agreed - worth reading this one up. The Premier League are not adapting the standard VAR model from Europe. Far more scope to bend decisions with the Prem version.
To be fair to Man City most tables of unfair decisions over the last 5-6 years show them getting more unfavourable than average (with WHU getting most unfavourable, surprise, surprise). I remember a stat that City fairly won the Prem several weeks ago with 8+ points more than Liverpool.
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Razzle
2:25 Mon May 20
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nope no changes to offside.
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Ashy
2:25 Mon May 20
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There's going to be a lot of stops for VAR checking of ggVAR it seems, but does that include penalties to double check if the keeper is off the line?
Interesting to see how our local league deals with sin bins being introduced this season. Going to be a nightmare I reckon.
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w4hammer
2:17 Mon May 20
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thanks razzle
so nothing on offsiides then?
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Lee Trundle
2:13 Mon May 20
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"The top 6 will still get the majority of decisions going their way regardless of VAR"
Of course they will. Loads reckon that VAR will be the cure, but they're in for one big surprise.
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Razzle
2:02 Mon May 20
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Here is the defacto source not some illiterate journalist
http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/786/111531_110319_IFAB_LoG_at_a_Glance.pdf
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